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FightBack

#kylerittenhouse

Donating

https://fightback-foundation-inc.snwbll.com/defendkyle

It appears you can donate without giving a phone number, but they appear to require an email.

select any anonymous donation option available to reduce doxing risk

Your employer may be willing to match donations if you ask, depending on your employer.

privacy.com may help get around controlling credit card companies.

Legitimacy

It seems #FightBack set up this campaign as an additional way to receive funds. Not sure why.

Tweet from @FightBackLaw with the Snowball campaign link

Tweet from Lin Wood publishing the Snowball campaign link

  • @FightBackLaw retweeted this but I'm not sure how to link a retweet

Tweet from @FightBackLaw replying when someone is concerned seeing two different donation locations for FightBack

About Snowball

Payment Processor

Payment processor is Stripe, and Stripe has problems.

Is Stripe, see FAQ:

our payment processor, Stripe

Stripe is already holding funds from the GiveSendGo campaign hostage! See GiveSendGo campaign update #4:

Stripe continues to hold several hundred thousand dollars of our funds hostage and we are coordinating with #FightBack to seek remediation of this politically-motivated hack-job. We encourage our donors to express their displeasure with Stripe, if they feel so inclined, by sending an email to complaints@stripe.com.

Surely FightBack knew about this problem before setting up this new campaign at this new Snowball site? Why would they do this knowing there are problems with Stripe?

How much does Snowball deduct from each transaction?

from Snowball's FAQ:

Q: How much does Snowball take from each transaction?

A: Our payment processor deducts a small fee from each transaction to cover credit card costs. Premium transactions get a rate of 2.2% + 30 cents for Premium accounts and 2.9% + 30 cents for all other account types. Donations made via American Express credit cards are charged a flat 3.5% rate (without the extra 30 cents), regardless of plan type.

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Donating

https://fightback.law/donate/

  • make sure to specify it's for Kyle's fund
  • donate by text message, paypal, credit card, or cryptocurrency
  • if there is an option to, select anonymous donation to reduce doxing risk
  • Your employer may be willing to match donations if you ask, depending on your employer.
  • privacy.com may help get around controlling credit card companies.

Legitimacy

about FightBack

  • Just weeks before the events in Kenosha, Wood and Pierce formed the nonprofit in Texas. It was originally aimed at crowdsourcing funds to sue the “fake news media” and “check the lies of the left.” (link)

About the fund for Kyle

  • @FightBackLaw is raising money for his [Kyle's] criminal [as opposed to defamation] defense costs. (Lin Wood, twitter)

  • 501©(4) #FightBack Foundation is receiving donations for defense of Kyle Rittenhouse & needs of family. I am in charge of expenditures & 2 signatures required for all payments. Mine & Board member who was tax accountant for Ted Turner for decades. (Lin Wood twitter)

  • “There are many scam & self-serving donation sites seeking money on many issues. I am always skeptical myself. All I can tell you is the truth. Every dime donated to @FightBackLaw earmarked for Kyle will go to his defense costs. Thanks for your help. God bless you. – Lin” (link)

  • Lin Wood stated on twitter that “There will be total transparency on part of #FightBack Foundation” (tweet)

  • “If donations to fund Kyle’s defense are insufficient to pay costs in full, general fund donations will be available & used.” (Lin Wood on twitter)

Pierce is representing Kyle

  • “The #FightBack Foundation legal team is heading out to meet with Kyle & his family. Several great local & national lawyers have joined team led by John Pierce @CaliKidJMP. Michelle Malkin @michellemalkin is also hard at work. True Patriots. Thanks you for outpouring of support.” (Lin Wood, twitter)

  • statement from Pierce Bainbridge about Kyle Rittenhouse (twitter)

  • 2nd-hand? Update Sept 17: “Kyle Rittenhouse's lawyer John Pierce tells me, “we have the entire defense team in place now, including very experienced criminal defense lawyers in Wisconsin and Illinois.” (source)

Other funding has been directed here:

  • GiveSendGo: “Wendy has instructed me to transfer the money from GiveSendGo's holding account to the #FightBack Foundation, set up by Lin Wood. All of the money donated through both their website, and this effort, will go to Kyle's defense, as it is likely to be an expensive and protracted affair.” (source, under Update #1)
  • National Foundation for Gun Rights: “The funds from NFGR will be deposited in the Kyle Rittenhouse trust fund administered by his attorney, John Pierce, and will be used at the sole discretion of Kyle Rittenhouse’s mother.” (link)

Concerns about FightBack, Lin Wood, and John Pierce (raised by attorney Robert Barnes and others)

attorney Robert Barnes (who it should be noted has some degree of negative personal history with attorney Lin Wood) raised concerns that this money may not be enough under the control of the Rittenhouse family, and that the people running fightback.law might not be the ideal people to be handling funds like this in his opinion.

comments from Barnes:

  • “Easy solution: Give the \$ raised FOR Rittenhouse TO Rittenhouse, so he can pick his own defense team. John Pierce (massive \$ issues; major lawsuits; no criminal trial experience) should not be anywhere near this case, least of all near any of the \$ fundraised for the kid.” (twitter link)

  • “Neither has any known experience in criminal trials of any kind, or in Wisconsin, ever. Both are seen very negatively by key Wisconsin defense lawyers happy to help Kyle. Their actions are hurting Kyle's defense while they hoard the $ raised for him & refuse to give it to him.” (twitter)

  • Exchange b/t Barnes and Wood: Name them [Other lawyers on the legal team for Kyle]. You including the kid lawyers with no trial experience? Including Pierce, who is NOT an experienced criminal defense atty? Why won't you give the \$ raised for Rittenhouse TO Rittenhouse? Why are you giving the \$ to fraudsters? Is that your definition of “transparency”? (link)

  • For those who don't know, Wood's entire law firm had to sue him for him defrauding them (while he now raises lots of $ “for” Rittenhouse that he refuses to give to Rittenhouse). They have the proof: transcripts, recordings, texts & emails. Read the suit: https://lawandcrime.com/lawsuit/defense-attorney-for-kyle-rittenhouse-sued-for-fraud-and-breach-of-contract-by-former-colleagues/ (twitter)

  • Lin Wood scammed his partners (the people who did most of the work on Sandmann case), threatened their wives & their children, made anti-semitic slurs against them, defrauded them, called himself “Almighty”, claimed God told him to abuse them, and now controls Rittenhouse's fate. (twitter)

claims Lin Wood is being intentionally deceptive with FightBack fundraising and using this as a publicity opportunity

  • “Wood and Pierce both used Kyle's name on Twitter and linked to fightback, which encouraged you to donate to their general fund, that can be used for many non-Kyle purposes. ALL this money deceptively raised should be used for Kyle.” (link)
  • LinWood is grifting the QAnons. Stop giving your money to their #FightBack “foundation”. They got plenty of money after representing Sandmann, they don’t need your money in order to help Rittenhouse. (link)

Other comments

  • anon: “You liar. The Family has stated you have not given them any money. That is fraud....” (twitter)
  • Someone: “I already was part of a successful effort make Pierce back off.” (link)
  • Call to unite: “Gentlemen: America needs BOTH of you in these desperate times. Lin @LLinWood and Robert @Barnes_Law please consider where you agree and stand together for your country. Thanks to each of you for what you have defending American heritage and liberty.” (link)

comments from Lin Wood:

  • “I am aware of accusations being made against me by @Barnes_Law & a few others. I have not lost any sleep over them. Robert is wrong. I know who I am. I know what I am doing & why I am doing it. Robert Barnes does not know me. Truth.” (twitter)
  • “I don’t know Robert Barnes personally. I do not judge him. I gave truthful explanation of “dispute” in Q & A portion of my remarks at Mercer Law School in January of this year. Please listen if you feel an explanation is needed before judging him or me. https://youtu.be/rrkeWYZ-CSE" (twitter)

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Next hearing

  • Friday, October 9, 9am CT
  • Cannot view in person because courts are restricted due to covid in IL, but can view online here
  • for status updates and court filings, search Kyle Rittenhouse here

Charges & Information about the Case

People

  • Attorney John Pierce twitter: @CaliKidJMP
  • Attorney L. Lin Wood twitter: @llinwood
    • “I represent Kyle Rittenhouse on potential defamation matters (there will be many), not as criminal defense attorney. I helped to assemble team of 5 excellent lawyers for his criminal defense. @FightBackLaw is raising money for his criminal defense costs.” (Lin Wood, twitter)
  • Wisconsin Attorney Mark Richards: joins team, profile
  • Attorney Marina Medvin: (on Kyle's defense team)

More info

  • Sept 5: Total fake news. Pierce Bainbridge P.C. has zero debt. I have stepped off the #FightBack board to avoid any potential conflict. Of course the firm will have to be paid for some of its work and expenses so we can keep the lights on. – John Pierce, twitter
    • Sept 5: FYI, just stepped off official #FightBack Foundation board to 100% focus on freeing Kyle and avoid any appearance of $$ conflict. All good. – John Pierce, twitter
  • Sept 1: #FightBack Foundation has engaged 4 lawyers for Kyle & will need 1 more in Illinois. All must be paid but are working at discounted rates. John Pierce @CaliKidJMP is lead attorney. Will need investigators & experts. We are going to fight hard for this boy & his family. Promise. (Lin Wood twitter)
  • Attorney Robert Barnes comments on this case on twitter

Events

#kylerittenhouse

This post is a work-in-progress, last partially updated Oct 20

Note: While so far it looks to me like this is a clear-cut case of self-defense, it isn't kind to distort the truth to “help” someone if it turns out they really did do something wrong.

*Kyle thanking supporters*

Advice for helping:

Criminal Charges against Kyle

See also information about the charges, legal team, case progression, etc

See also my attempt at evidence collection here

Charging Kyle's Attackers

This is important.

It's more than the usual slandering of a minor and trying to hang an innocent person.

They're trying to cover up an attempted murder.

  • Charge Gaige Grosskreutz
  • We need identification of the first person from the second altercation who tried to stomp on Kyle (before the skateboard attack)
  • Charge Joshua Ziminski, who fired the first shot while Rosenbaum was attacking (and his wife Kelly Ziminski who was with him?)
  • “Cranium that boy” streamer incitement to violence?

Moral Support

  • Pray for Kyle Rittenhouse
  • You Meme About Me, But Have You Written Me A Letter Yet? Address it to: Kyle Rittenhouse, Juvenile Complex Center 24647 N Milwaukee Ave, Vernon Hills, IL 60061 (link) (more info about mail)
  • As a person that has been in jail for months, I know what it's like to lose your mind within the confines of those walls and not only does this kid not deserve this, he needs our support any way he can get it and I know for a fact that any type of letter or words of encouragement or a book to pass the time will make a world's difference. (link)

Civil Charges

Page about this

Defamation?

  • Mark Dice : Save all the tweets of members of the media, celebrities, and Congress defaming Kyle Rittenhouse. Not screen shots. Internet archive URLs. His lawyer Lin Wood (Nick Sandmann's attorney) is going to sue the sh!it out of all of them. Go! (source)
    • “Remember, how they all deleted their Sandmann lies the second shit hit the fan and they started getting sued? So save evidence of media slandering Kyle to make it easier for his legal team to cash in.” (source)

Stuff that happened to follow up on maybe:

what happened to funds?

Fundly

other unfair treatment?

change.org

facebook

NRA

Maryland Gov't

Financial

discover card:

gofundme

Stripe

On the topic of payment processors, Stripe continues to hold several hundred thousand dollars of our funds hostage and we are coordinating with #FightBack to seek remediation of this politically-motivated hack-job. We encourage our donors to express their displeasure with Stripe, if they feel so inclined, by sending an email to complaints@stripe.com. (Update #4, GiveSendGo campaign)

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